How can we understand the infinite when the majority of us look to the facts of the finite to give us what we consider to be reasonable facts?

  1. We tend to look to the easily relatable somewhat logical and made finitely useful concepts and not to delimit infinity into actually possible infinity/s – infinities that can be dealt with as they may actually be what we mean by such a thing in reality. Infinity is potentially applicable concept in reality until known bounds in reality limit that or something else is shown to possibly be the case.

Apparently the universe is possibly infinite in its bounds. The abstract concept infinity as a number itself is useful in mathematics in expressions that represent a value as it approaches infinity so that we can use Calculus as a tool – we have the language and basis in principles to manipulate numbers thus. Numbers of many numbers types can go on infinitely. Theoretically they can get smaller to infinity. But can that happen practically for particles as the smallest unit possible between them is given as Planck lengths – in units so small that nothing smaller can even theoretically be measured. We experience most things in reality as well in sets with a finite number of elements.

God is said to be infinite in nature – timeless even – as he has no beginning or end. Time on the other hand is not infinite and in and of itself does not really exist. So God and the universe are what we might expect could be infinite in and of themselves except for how infinity is used in mathematics -theoretically with associated practical limits. What about alternate universes in quantum physics? And infinite variations of possible selves as interpretations of possible nature of reality – this is much more conjecture.

What s bigger God or the infinite universe – unless both are one as in Hindi religion. Problem is even their conception of time in giant cycles is eventually finite as it relates to even their understanding of things so the finite explains the ultimately infinite.

Pi is infinite but the actually used value is set to just so many places of decimal as doing that makes the value useful. Is it useful to understand how having a definitive notion of GOD interferes with his actual nature in reality or our understanding thereof? Some religions limit what can be said of God for this reason. We can work with infinity as a theoretical value used in numeric tool or as a descriptive conceptual value approximating possible reality – multiple cycles or copies or repetitions or divisions or operations or potentially limitless states of being – to a capture point with expressible bounds. Infinite becomes just really great and that ends that. The need to express the infinite in workable fashions or methodologies exists. Art mimics infinity in seemingly unending perspective drawings or paintings. Math even allows work in infinite numerical dimensions but reality has a finite number of spatial dimensions. Both sets of facts on dimensions are used to understand the real. Art speaks to the made possible by illusionary means in reality as infinity. Most people desire not to know too much of either as their lives depend more on set values and are more often limited to their usual sets of things, people places and events.

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First it is necessary to understand the nature of infinity. The human mind has a difficult time in fathoming just how big infinity is. That sometimes makes it difficult to properly analyze a problem or discuss ideas related to infinite nature.

The logic goes like this:

Suppose you have 10 boxes numbered 1 thru 10 lined up. In the next row, you line them up with the #1 moved to the end so the sequence is 2,3,4…9,10,1. In the next row you move the #2 to the end. You keep repeating this until you have created every single permutation of the arrangement of these 10 boxes. Can you guess how many rows of boxes that will be? Every permutation will take 3,628,800 rows. That’s a lot.

If I put out more boxes, all of the possible arrangements of the boxes will simply increase. Even if I put out millions of boxes, all the possible arrangements of the boxes will still be a finite number.

Now imagine that instead of boxes in a row, you are rearranging the atoms that make up matter. For instance, the matter that makes up a star or a planet. All of the possible arrangements of all of the atoms of that planet or sun would be an extremely large number – so big that we probably could not calculate it BUT using logic, we can prove that it is a finite number because the total number of possible arrangement of the boxes is finite – meaning that it is less than infinity.

Now imagine that we calculate every possible arrangement of every atom in the universe. Note that the number of atoms in the universe will be infinite in an infinite universe BUT the possible arrangements of those atoms is finite. Granted, it will be a very big number but as with those boxes, there are just so many different ways that they can be arranged. The distinction that we are talking about is a finite number of arrangements of those atoms and NOT the number of atoms, is important.

That means that if you go far enough into the infinite universe, you will have exhausted all of the possible arrangements that atoms can be put together but because space is infinite, the things that those atoms were arranged to be will start repeating themselves. That means that if you go far enough into an infinite universe, you’ll find another Earth that looks exactly like this one.

But now comes the part that is hard to grasp. Infinity is so much larger than it will take to find that first duplicate Earth, that if you keep going, you will find another one and another one, on and on forever. There will be an infinite number of Earths that have every possible arrangement of atoms. One of those Earths will contain you but of the opposite sex, and skin color and hair color – every possible variation of you is out there somewhere.

You can’t say that it will stop somewhere or that it can’t happen because then it wouldn’t be an infinite universe. It doesn’t matter if there is an infinite number of atoms – there is not an infinite number of arrangement of those atoms.

There’s two things wrong with this. The first is that it assumes that the universe is infinite but that it maintains the same laws of physics, math and chemistry that exist on Earth. We do not know that either of those are true.

The second is that there is absolutely no possible way that we can test or confirm this by anything other than imagination and speculation. And that means it is NOT science. We might call it philosophy or a belief. We might have faith that it is true but we cannot call it science.

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It’s not that hard, it’s a matter of perspective.

One individual universe, composed by one infinite of individuals, of distinct, infinite variety, diversity, all along in one same order, harmony, universal to individuals all, but broken in the humans.

The vegetable are harmonic, the animals, virus, everything is harmonic, also the volcanos, hurricanes, they’re explainable, the conjunction of actions provoking one to the other, until catastrophes, but harmonically absorbed, even with large extinctions, as to the dinosaurs.

Humans have no harmony, they are ignorant (we are ignorant of ourselves, we don’t know who, what, we are, seriously) living according to theories because theories give results, beauty, newbies, attractions, and charming, seducing, and we get addicted to them without noticing the addiction because it is natural to us all happening the same.

Electricity brought harmony, 50 or 60 hertz, to our houses, to our lives and we got addicted to it as addicted we are to our screens and ‘all-mighty’ powers of talking and exhibiting ourselves to the entire World as well as getting informed and ‘watching’ everything we care about in front of our eyes… blinded to ourselves, we don’t care about who we are, all we want seems to be.

I am, so, that’s fine to me.

The infinite can be counted, imaginarily, from the first to the last, using all the natural numbers.

The infinite, that same, can be counted, imaginarily, from the first to last, using all the odd numbers and it will be completed too.

The same infinite can be counted, imaginarily, from the first to the last, without missing any, nothing, using the infinite number of pairs and there will not be present the one.

The infinite – all – can be counted, imaginarily, from beginning to end, it all, using only the prime numbers and there only the 2 will be repeated in two infinite others as same happened to the 1, present in three infinities only, as imaginarily counted.

Four infinities, one instance, repeated, but not the same, 1 and 2, explains light, on top of a pyramid, to me, like a photon, or base for one single eye.

See… in the Universe, the only thing recognizable to everything else as value, same value, is the apple, as a fruit, and wherever we go, animals go, birds go, it suits to feed, not as other fruits, diverse to distinct cultures, as not the apple, known everywhere for everyone as good… the same idea, of one individual value to one particular species, should be applied to the humans, as same value, wherever they born and that’s… not as such, but should be.

We need to understand humans as valuable, all over, as are the trees… good.

We born good and we’re not apples.

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